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01 December 2022

#639: Todd McFarlane, Legendary Comic Book Artist — How to Make Iconic Art, Reinvent Spider-Man, Live Life on Your Own Terms, and Meet Every Deadline

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Hot Take· 1

Hot Take14:00

Why Faster Delivery Technology Does Not End Deadline Scrambles

McFarlane contrasts physically chasing airport shipments with modern scanning and digital transfer. His conclusion is that faster delivery does not remove deadline pressure; creators simply use the saved transport time to push their work later.

  • Physical pages once had to reach Federal Express or an airport
  • He sometimes ran packages down the tarmac to make the flight
  • Digital scanning removed transport delay
  • The available production time expanded to consume the saving

Today, all of that's taken away because now you can scan your pages and hit, literally, a download. Boom, it's gone.

Todd McFarlane · 15:30

All's it means is you just get to push your luck with deadlines later and later.

Todd McFarlane · 15:30
#deadlines#technology#shipping#creative work

Explainer· 1

Explainer11:00

The Three Skills That Sustain a Comic-Book Career

McFarlane separates comic-book performance into drawing ability, storytelling clarity, and dependable delivery. He says an average illustrator can build a strong career through compelling, understandable storytelling, while deadline reliability can sustain work in an industry that must publish every month.

  • Pure drawing skill can carry an artist a long way
  • Strong storytelling can compensate for average draftsmanship
  • A non-reader should still understand the sequence of events
  • Monthly publishing makes deadline reliability commercially essential

The second piece is storytelling.

Todd McFarlane · 11:30

If you can't keep a deadline, then you're for sure not good at anything.

Todd McFarlane · 13:00
#comics#storytelling#clarity#careers

Story· 6

Story02:00

How Baseball Turned a Reluctant Student Into a College Graduate

McFarlane says competition with his brothers and in baseball reinforced a temperament that later shaped his business career. Although he disliked formal education, a baseball scholarship made college economically rational, and he became one of only two players on his 25-person team to graduate in four years.

  • Daily competition began with two brothers close to his age
  • Baseball gave him a scholarship despite his lack of interest in college
  • He treated the free degree as an opportunity that should not be wasted
  • Freelance comics became another competitive game after graduation

Everything is a competition.

Todd McFarlane · 03:30

If somebody's going to give you free education, I'm going to grab it.

Todd McFarlane · 05:00
#baseball#competition#college#career
Story29:30

The Absurd Comics Code Dispute That Made McFarlane Quit Marvel

After years of editorial conflict, a required redraw became McFarlane's breaking point. Editors told him that a sword could stab the Juggernaut in many places but not the eye, leading him to conclude that the rules had become incoherent; he submitted the page for others to alter and resigned shortly before becoming a father.

  • McFarlane had repeatedly asked to see the Comics Code itself
  • The dispute concerned whether a sword could be shown entering an eye
  • He compared the restriction with other permitted depictions of stabbing
  • The argument ended years of accumulated frustration rather than causing it alone

you never want to have a conversation with anybody where two plus two equals giraffe, right?

Todd McFarlane · 34:30

By the way, I'm handing in my resignation. I am done. I am exhausted.

Todd McFarlane · 35:00
#marvel#comics code#resignation#creative control
Story55:00

How Staying at the Signing Table Won McFarlane New Fans

McFarlane says he avoided food, drink, and bathroom breaks during long convention signings. Beyond serving people who had already waited for hours, remaining at the table while peers left for lunch attracted attendees looking for a moving line; a gracious 20-second interaction could then convert an unfamiliar visitor into a future reader.

  • He felt it was wrong to pause after fans had waited for hours
  • Other artists' lunch breaks left his signing line as the active option
  • Some attendees joined because the line was moving, not because they knew him
  • Kindness during a brief interaction could create interest in his work

I can't have somebody waiting in line for two hours, three hours and then look at them and say, "Cut. I'm going for an hour…

Todd McFarlane · 56:30

They just go, "He's signing. That line's moving, I'll get in his line."

Todd McFarlane · 57:30
#fans#conventions#customer service#endurance
Story58:00

McFarlane's Ruthless Use of Heat and Water in Negotiations

McFarlane describes inviting legal or contract counterparts to his Phoenix office, making the room hot and stuffy, and placing water in front of visitors wearing suits. He believed his greater tolerance for heat, thirst, and long sessions gave him leverage when the other side eventually needed a bathroom break, although the story reflects his own interpretation of why they conceded.

  • He held difficult negotiations in an environment he knew well
  • The room was deliberately warmer than normal
  • Visitors in suits drank water throughout the discussion
  • He attributes some final-point concessions to physical discomfort and urgency

This is just the art of war.

Todd McFarlane · 58:30

We're not leaving this room until we settle every single outstanding point.

Todd McFarlane · 59:00
#negotiation#environment#endurance#contracts
Story1:07:30

McFarlane Was Unemployed for Seven Minutes Before Batman Called

A clash over storytelling assumptions led Marvel to remove McFarlane from G.I. Joe after one issue. Seven minutes later, DC called because the artist on Batman: Year Two had left, offering McFarlane the one character he had said would bring him back to the company.

  • McFarlane and the G.I. Joe writer disagreed about how much readers could infer
  • He experienced his first firing as both upsetting and relieving
  • DC needed an artist for the final three parts of Batman: Year Two
  • The replacement job matched his stated condition for returning to DC

I was unemployed for seven minutes.

Todd McFarlane · 1:09:30
#batman#gi joe#career setback#storytelling
Story1:19:30

Venom Began as a Way to Restore Spider-Man's Red-and-Blue Suit

McFarlane did not want to draw Spider-Man's black costume, so he proposed transferring the living suit to a new character. He designed a hulking alien form before learning the wearer would be human Eddie Brock, kept the imposing design anyway, and says Venom's later success was a byproduct of his effort to restore Peter Parker's classic costume.

  • McFarlane regarded the red-and-blue costume as the real Spider-Man look
  • He proposed preserving the black costume by moving it to a villain
  • The visual design preceded the information that Eddie Brock was human
  • Strong reader mail and sales signaled that the new villain worked

So what if I come back to you with some designs? We just rip the costume off, we put it on somebody, I'll create another…

Todd McFarlane · 1:21:30

Venom, I didn't care at that moment about Venom. It was like I get rid of it.

Todd McFarlane · 1:24:30
#venom#spider-man#character design#creative accident

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway21:30

Why McFarlane Kept Spawn Out of His Marvel Portfolio

Before entering the industry, McFarlane read accounts of prominent creators being pushed out and losing creative or financial value. He therefore treated Marvel as a reciprocal commercial relationship but never offered pre-existing characters such as Spawn, even while professionally creating new characters for Marvel stories.

  • Jack Kirby's experience became a warning about creator vulnerability
  • McFarlane entered professional comics with the business risk in view
  • He distinguished paid professional creation from surrendering prior ideas
  • Spawn remained outside Marvel and DC despite his success there

if they can do that to Jack "King" Kirby, they can do it to anyone.

Todd McFarlane · 22:30

I never ever had one second temptation to ever pull any of those out and offer them to Marvel or DC when I was working…

Todd McFarlane · 23:30
#creator ownership#intellectual property#marvel#spawn